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Re: Largest battle

Postby dazrand on Thu 08 Oct 2015 20:08

The battle was four nation fleets, not total fleets mind you. The swarms were likely what the nations did not mind loosing. The attack was started with drones, then heavies in decreasing order. We should have rolled from breakoff, but got caught up in getting it done. By then it was easier to just accept the results.
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Re: Largest battle

Postby aramis on Sat 31 Oct 2015 15:51

My largest multiplayer was 4 players - each with 7 ships. Identical Fleets. It's how I usually taught the 2E Tactical game. I was able to look at the PDF and find the ones I used... I took the stock ships, and for the CT and CL, cut them back to HT IV (O→A C→D P→F)

In fact, I used to keep the SSD's printed out for these in the box so it was grab and go.

CL (3) SSSSSSAAHWIFWIWDDIIII (6)
2x DD (2) SSSAAHIHIIIWIIDFW (6)
2x FG (2) SSSAAAWIHWIIII (5)
2x CT (2) SAHIIWIIFII (6)
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Re: Largest battle

Postby LordKron on Sun 01 Nov 2015 10:19

Am I missing something or are those under sized for stock 2E ships?
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Re: Largest battle

Postby aramis on Tue 03 Nov 2015 20:15

LordKron wrote:Am I missing something or are those under sized for stock 2E ships?

They're taken straight out of 2E...

Let's deconstruct the CL
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Sp System
06 6x S
02 2x A
01 1x H
09 3x W
04 1x F
04 2x D
09 6x I @1.5 each
== ===============
35 total spaces —— correct for a CL


The DD
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Sp System
03 3x S
02 2x A
02 2x H
06 2x W
04 1x F
02 1x D
06 6x I @1 each
== ===============
25 total spaces —— correct for a DD


And the FG
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Sp System
03 3x S
03 3x A
01 1x H
06 2x W
05 5x I @1 each
== ===============
18 total spaces —— correct for a FG


Finally, the CT
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Sp System
01 1x S
01 1x A
01 1x H
03 1x W
04 1x F
03 6x I @0.5 each
== ===============
13 total spaces —— correct for a CT


Keep in mind: the use of engine rooms was added in Nexus after 2E was published.
If that option is in use
CL (3) SSSSSSAAHW(II)FW(I)WDD(II)(I)(II)(I) (6)
2x DD (2) SSSAAH(I)H(I)(I)(I)W(I)(I)DFW (6)
2x FG (2) SSSAAAW(I)HW(I)(i) (5)
2x CT (2) SAH(I)W(I)F(I) (6)

I always introduced new players with fairly small ships so that it played quickly, and lots of ship popping happened.
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Re: Largest battle

Postby LordKron on Wed 04 Nov 2015 08:10

Engine rooms wasn't the issue. I'll have to check New Empires (only 2E product I still have), but I remember CL as 40 HS, DD as 30, FG as 20 and CT as 16. The major size changes later were CA going from 50 to 60 and BC from 70 to 80.
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Re: Largest battle

Postby LordKron on Wed 04 Nov 2015 11:51

New Empires did change CA and BC sizes.
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Re: Largest battle

Postby aramis on Wed 04 Nov 2015 15:19

LordKron wrote:New Empires did change CA and BC sizes.

Actually, New Empires changed ALL hull sizes

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Ty    2E     NE
ES    10    8-12
CT    13   13-16
FG    18   17-20
DD    25   21-30
CL    35   31-40
CA    50   41-60
BC    70   61-80
BB    90   81-100
SD   120  101-130
MT     —  131-200
CVE    —   21-30
CVL   50   31-50
CV    85   51-85
CVA    —   86-120
F-1   20   15-25
F-2   35   26-40
F-3   55   41-65
F-4   90   66-90
F-5    —   91-120
BS-1  20   15-25
BS-2  40   26-50
BS-3  75   51-85
BS-4 100   86-120

Note that MT, F5, and SS are not in 2E until NE.
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Re: Largest battle

Postby jackbrownii on Wed 04 Nov 2015 20:25

I don't remember the exact numbers as it was years ago, but, there was a warp point assault in my solo campaign where the simultaneous transit of 300 or so BBs was wiped out in two turns. Yay, asteroid forts!
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